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Started by RokkitSerjun, Jan 15 2016 05:47 PM

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RokkitSerjun #1 Posted 15 January 2016 - 05:47 PM

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I was just wondering if any of the other core players have hit a wall of apathy? It seems I've already hit a point that I usually don't hit for many months to a couple of years after a game's release. I don't know if its the que times or the negative feelings I get from seeing my ratings go down and standing on the leader boards drop even while consistently winning over 80% of my games. I don't know why but it just annoys the shit out of me to constantly win games and lose rating. Its not like I'm seal clubbing, I'm playing at least 2K decks and usually much more. I just still need some tier 4 cards, mostly elites that takes a while to grind.

There are a bunch of dick players too. If I had a dollar for everyone of the pudknocks that made me wait while the time ran out at the end of the game when I kicked their ass I'd be able to afford Esurance...

This combined with the obvious disregard that the game creators show for us and the continued lack of access to pre-release content the rest of the world has or anything remotely approaching something resembling promotion making me feel enthusiastic about logging on to play has really sapped my joy. It's like oh-gee, should I log on and grind thru my five-per-nation daily games for the little extra silver it will get me.

Dunno maybe I need more Prozac...


Blesd12 #2 Posted 15 January 2016 - 09:36 PM

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Yeah, we have been let out to dry....

Tpaktop2_1 #3 Posted 16 January 2016 - 02:33 PM

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I sometimes log in just for the dailies. I notice how Christmas is still going in Russia (?). :sceptic:

I play WoTG when I feel like it, however I don't have the drive for as compare to other WG products.


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Nas_sa #4 Posted 17 January 2016 - 12:29 PM

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For me it's the lack of players. I've been playing the same maybe 10 people over and over again for the past few weeks now, and it gets old. I've already accepted the fact that the rating system is meaningless so it doesn't bother me as much because I don't really pay attention to it. Dick players are going to be in any game, so that's not something unique to WoTG.

Edit: oh and the fact that my friend list (and consequently black list) has been broken for about a month now....


Edited by Nas_sa, 17 January 2016 - 12:31 PM.

HNBT_Newton_HNBT #5 Posted 17 January 2016 - 01:10 PM

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View PostNas_sa, on 17 January 2016 - 10:29 AM, said:

For me it's the lack of players. I've been playing the same maybe 10 people over and over again for the past few weeks now, and it gets old. I've already accepted the fact that the rating system is meaningless so it doesn't bother me as much because I don't really pay attention to it. Dick players are going to be in any game, so that's not something unique to WoTG.

Edit: oh and the fact that my friend list (and consequently black list) has been broken for about a month now....

Yeah it's very sad that your friends list is broken :(

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RokkitSerjun #6 Posted 17 January 2016 - 03:24 PM

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Yeah I keep telling myself that the rating thing doesn't matter, but there's just something that grates on my nerves at the end of every game to see the game tell me I'm doing bad for winning. It's just annoying, kinda like an OCD thing that just gets under your skin.

Nas_sa #7 Posted 18 January 2016 - 03:17 PM

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View PostRokkitSerjun, on 17 January 2016 - 03:24 PM, said:

Yeah I keep telling myself that the rating thing doesn't matter, but there's just something that grates on my nerves at the end of every game to see the game tell me I'm doing bad for winning. It's just annoying, kinda like an OCD thing that just gets under your skin.

I think really all they need to do is to change the weight of the "average deck power over the last 100 games" thing when doing the ratings calculations and then it will be much improved. Right now it seems like your average deck power is the overwhelming determinant in whether you gain or lose rating points.

naejin #8 Posted 19 January 2016 - 03:53 AM

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I tend to agree with Rokkit on his points of not feeling the pull to play as much. Although I have many more things to unlock, the missions requiring 5 wins have become a demotivating grind, and I have stopped trying to earn them, because this can sometimes be a huge time sink where it takes hours of play every day to finish (depending on length of each game & win rate). I also agree that the rating system is very demotivating as well. I used to enjoy playing all deck power ranges & be willing to swap to any deck power range that other people want to play, but now feel compelled to only play the higher deck powers to attempt to keep my rating stable.

Rokkit, on a different note, I disagree somewhat to your complaint about "d*ck players". Just because a player takes their time does not deem them a "d*ck player". I'm surprised that you weren't flagged for what you typed. Now I've also probably experienced the poor sport who trolls at the end of their game by intentionally AFK for 3 minutes, but there could be several reasons why a player can take long turns, and I wouldn't recommend jumping to conclusions.

Reasons for people taking longer turns:

1) They can't figure out the best optimal play in a timely fashion. The person keeps looking for something better. Maybe this indicates that you're playing against someone who might be less skilled than you trying to figure out a way out of a bad situation. But that does not give you the right to be so intolerant of other people by bashing their character.

2) People have connection issues. Personally I play on a bad wireless router connection. I live in an apartment where the wireless router is 2 floors below me. There are times when I lose connection for large chunks of time. WoTG doesn't seem to recover from interconnectivity very well, and I've lost dozens of battles due to timing out.

3) There really shouldn't be much of a reason to complain, because using up one's time hurts him/herself more than anyone else, because there is a 15 minute battle timer per person, along with a 2 minute turn timer. This is a fair system IMO.

I try my best, and almost never surrender even games that look bad. I know I'm not the best player, and have good & bad days of mental focus. I've lost many battles where I was in the "tank" (meaning think tank, not war tank), and didn't realize my turn clock ran out before I got to execute all my moves. I take my time, and I have every right to take my full allotment of time if I so need.


Uriel16 #9 Posted 19 January 2016 - 10:45 AM

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I became a casual too now, only cards I have left is IS-4 and IS-7. I prefer Russian. If the player base was larger, I would probably play more, however, the result of most of the times I've signed in is I get on, go into q, wait a few minutes, and once no one else is playing, I just get off.


RokkitSerjun #10 Posted 19 January 2016 - 06:35 PM

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View Postnaejin, on 19 January 2016 - 03:53 AM, said:

I tend to agree with Rokkit on his points of not feeling the pull to play as much. Although I have many more things to unlock, the missions requiring 5 wins have become a demotivating grind, and I have stopped trying to earn them, because this can sometimes be a huge time sink where it takes hours of play every day to finish (depending on length of each game & win rate). I also agree that the rating system is very demotivating as well. I used to enjoy playing all deck power ranges & be willing to swap to any deck power range that other people want to play, but now feel compelled to only play the higher deck powers to attempt to keep my rating stable.

Rokkit, on a different note, I disagree somewhat to your complaint about "d*ck players". Just because a player takes their time does not deem them a "d*ck player". I'm surprised that you weren't flagged for what you typed. Now I've also probably experienced the poor sport who trolls at the end of their game by intentionally AFK for 3 minutes, but there could be several reasons why a player can take long turns, and I wouldn't recommend jumping to conclusions.

Reasons for people taking longer turns:

1) They can't figure out the best optimal play in a timely fashion. The person keeps looking for something better. Maybe this indicates that you're playing against someone who might be less skilled than you trying to figure out a way out of a bad situation. But that does not give you the right to be so intolerant of other people by bashing their character.

2) People have connection issues. Personally I play on a bad wireless router connection. I live in an apartment where the wireless router is 2 floors below me. There are times when I lose connection for large chunks of time. WoTG doesn't seem to recover from interconnectivity very well, and I've lost dozens of battles due to timing out.

3) There really shouldn't be much of a reason to complain, because using up one's time hurts him/herself more than anyone else, because there is a 15 minute battle timer per person, along with a 2 minute turn timer. This is a fair system IMO.

I try my best, and almost never surrender even games that look bad. I know I'm not the best player, and have good & bad days of mental focus. I've lost many battles where I was in the "tank" (meaning think tank, not war tank), and didn't realize my turn clock ran out before I got to execute all my moves. I take my time, and I have every right to take my full allotment of time if I so need.

I'm not complaining about people taking their time deciding on what to do. I'm talking about those people who just don't do anything and let the timer completely run out. Make you wait the full two minutes for their turn to end, then on their next turn the one minute it gives them. Its like their pouting about you beating them. A little punishment they give you for kicking their ass.

tanky_the_tank #11 Posted 21 January 2016 - 09:51 PM

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Surrender button is hard to find, maybe they are closing game cause they know they lost.

RokkitSerjun #12 Posted 21 January 2016 - 11:30 PM

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View Posttanky_the_tank, on 21 January 2016 - 09:51 PM, said:

Surrender button is hard to find, maybe they are closing game cause they know they lost.

I thought that too, until I took to taunting them and making them wait out my time too. Minute or two of me making fun of them being crybabies and they typically find the surrender button, so no they are sitting there making me wait the vast majority of the time.

Pauper063 #13 Posted 22 January 2016 - 03:52 PM

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I've largely given up on the 'win 5 games' missions myself -- I'll maybe do the Russian one if I'm feeling it (my Russian HQs are probably my best-researched ones), but much more than that and I feel like I'm putting way more time into the game than the extra 10k credits are really worth.

What frustrates me the most isn't the guys who make me wait 3 minutes for a win -- that's just enough time to grab a fresh beer! It's when those guys are clearly playing combo decks that crush you if they get their cards and basically just fold if they don't, so that when I see their handles in the matchup screen I already know that I'm going to either earn an easy 15 HoF points or lose 80, regardless of how my deck plays that match.

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awesomeplayer9690 #14 Posted 07 March 2016 - 06:49 PM

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They see me laggin', they hatin'.

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View PostRokkitSerjun, on 19 January 2016 - 06:35 PM, said:

I'm not complaining about people taking their time deciding on what to do. I'm talking about those people who just don't do anything and let the timer completely run out. Make you wait the full two minutes for their turn to end, then on their next turn the one minute it gives them. Its like their pouting about you beating them. A little punishment they give you for kicking their ass.

Don't know how many situations this can account for, but the game has an interesting habit of disconnecting people at Midnight Pacific time (3am east coast). Happens to me every night. Presumably to everyone? I've seen at least 2 other people complain of same problem. Something to do with the game's server reset? And when it does that, the only way you can tell is that the timer clocks keep counting down but you cannot play cards. If you're watching from the other side you might think the other person is just letting the time run out. There's no way to get back to the battle even if you refresh the page because that just reloads the game, bringing you back to the deck page.

Gethreyn #16 Posted 12 March 2016 - 05:47 AM

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At midnight pacific you will get d/c. The game will be voided. I am often playing at this time before bed and see it nightly. So now if I am paying attention to the time, i will not start a game 20 mins to midnight.
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